If It Wasn’t for These People…

It’s easy to get frustrated at the people you lead. It’s easy to stop believing in their potential and to instead slip into a kind of manipulation that uses them for your own purposes.

Jim believes that one of the central axioms of leadership is that people tend to rise to what we expect of them. That means a pastors job is always to believe in who out people can be.

In our conversation we explore how that optimism can be lost and how leaders can regain their belief in the potential of the people they lead.